Steve Bannon is the chief strategist for President Donald Trump.
Here’s what he told Recode about his role in the Trump administration.
Recode: What did you think when Trump told you he wanted to go after Bannon?
Bannon: I thought it was kind of silly.
I thought, Oh, well, what are you talking about?
What is it?
But then when you look back, I thought this was a really smart move.
I think he’s smart.
He’s a brilliant strategist, and he was just willing to help make it work.
He was a real asset to the president, and I think I was very lucky to be able to work with him.
I mean, he’s just such a brilliant guy.
Recoding: You have a lot of friends in the White House.
How did you find the White [House] staff?
Bannon, the president’s former chief strategist, was a regular guest on the White Houses daily radio show.
Recodes: You were one of those who were so close to Trump, you got a lot to say?
Bannon’s wife, Louise Linton, is the Whitehouse press secretary.
Recoded: Did you feel you were in the same boat as Louise Lintons people?
Bannon says you were a friend, but she didn’t have the same kind of relationships you do.
You got to know her and you saw what she was going through.
I would say that was one of the things I learned that I think helped me.
I got to see how she was dealing with a lot more than just me, and how she went about her job, which is not to be a political operative or a political strategist.
Recapping: Bannon said the president told him, We are not going to do this, so you have to be an ally, not a political adviser.
Recursion: How did the Trump White House deal with Bannon’s sudden departure?
Bannon said they were able to get the president to agree to this in principle.
Recoder: Bannon was an outspoken critic of Trump.
How were you able to be so supportive of the president?
Bannon was the one who convinced the president that he had to change the way he was going about things, and it was just a matter of him taking the first step and doing it.
He went from being a guy who wanted to change how things were going, to being someone who wanted the whole country to be on board with the idea that Trump is going to take a very strong stance against what is coming from the Democrats.
Recalling that moment when Bannon said he was leaving, I said, This is what I’ve been waiting for.
Recod: You said in a book that it’s the biggest mistake he ever made in his life.
How does he feel now that you’ve given him the boot?
Bannon is extremely angry about that.
I’ve never felt more angry in my life, but the reality is, Steve is not the guy that he used to be.
I had a great relationship with him when he was running the White, and we talked a lot about what’s wrong with the country.
I was shocked when he announced he was doing this.
Recomb: What do you make of the new White House press secretary?
Bannon has been at the WhiteHouse since January.
Recidivism in the media is on the rise, especially on cable news.
How has that impacted your relationship with the press?
I think the biggest thing is I’m not in the news business, and there are people who do.
I’m a Republican, so I think a lot people who know me are going to know who I am, but I’m also going to be open about the fact that I’m the CEO of Breitbart News, which, by the way, is an anti-Semitic website.
It has no editorial independence, and has a very, very, highly partisan agenda.
I have to say, this is a real shame.
Recidiption: Bannon told the media to stop talking about Trump.
Rec: I was like, I can’t do that.
The problem is you have people in the mainstream media that are in the business of trying to take you down and destroy you, and that’s a dangerous business.
Recopid: Do you see yourself in a Trump administration?
Recoding Bannon: You can’t imagine.
I can imagine being a part of the administration.
I’ll just leave it at that.
Recdid: Does Bannon still see himself as a leader in the political world?
Recode Bannon: Yeah.
Recodic: How do you feel about Bannon’s legacy?
Recoded Bannon: Well, I mean it’s a great legacy, I think, and certainly there’s been some good things that have come out of it, like when I was at Breitbart, we had a lot, we got some very strong conservative voices, and a lot is happening now.
But we were also a conservative